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Why is so little done about bullying?
Topic Started: Aug 25 2016, 12:58 AM (1,453 Views)
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It seems like not a day goes by where some unfortunate kid chooses to end their life over bullying because...nothing really gets done about it.
Talking actual children 12 years old, sometimes even younger, feeling that the only way they can escape is to end their own life. That's extremely tragic.

Considering it's such a serious thing that can ruin a persons whole life and even make them end it, why are the appropriate authorities so crap at dealing with it?


I remember when I got bullied the first time my mother told the school about it dozens of times and nothing was done. She even confronted the boys mother who didn't do all that much. All I could do was attempt to avoid him.
This wasn't a very serious bullying case but it still made me scared to go to school.
Eventually I beat the kid up, then the school tried to get me in trouble for it because that made me the aggressor.
Even though if one teacher just spent 5 minutes looking in the playground they'd have seen he pushed me around and teased me to the point of tears.


That kind of thing seems to happen a lot. There's only action taken when it comes to someone getting injured and it's usually the person doing the damage that gets flak for it.
Even if they've been sverely emotionally bullied for years and pushed to breaking point.

There should be some actual serious punishments for these things. At best the bully gets a slap on the wrist or maybe they get taken away because they have abusive parents or something and their victims are just left to cope with the mental damage because everything is fine now...until they get bullied again because they became so reserved that they're a prime target in high school.


Generally the way bullying is dealt with is so woefully inept, has anyone experienced the same crap?
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I spent years fighting bullies in middle and high school, and the only way to deal with a bully is to become their bully. Become the thing they fear, the reason why they're afraid to leave the false sense of security they get when they stay home. Otherwise nothing will happen to them, only your family cares enough about you to do something and there's only so much they can do until it becomes your own fault for allowing yourself to get bullied.

Committing suicide over someone bullying you is an act of cowardice.

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Aug 25 2016, 01:16 AM
Committing suicide over someone bullying you is an act of cowardice.

I have several issues with this comment. Not least of which that it is wrong. Cowardice is not stopping the bullying when it happens right in front of you. In that sense, every single school official who is supposed to stop it is a coward.
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So you're blaming the victim?

Come on, be serious.
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Aug 25 2016, 01:16 AM
I spent years fighting bullies in middle and high school, and the only way to deal with a bully is to become their bully. Become the thing they fear, the reason why they're afraid to leave the false sense of security they get when they stay home. Otherwise nothing will happen to them, only your family cares enough about you to do something and there's only so much they can do until it becomes your own fault for allowing yourself to get bullied.

Committing suicide over someone bullying you is an act of cowardice.

That's not they way to do things. That makes you no better than them. I grew through bullying in all of elementary and junior high. But not once would I fight back because I couldn't ever bring myself to hurt someone no matter what they said or no matter how hard they hit me. But eventually they grew up and gained respect for me.

Calling it a cowards way out? I don't know about that, a lot of people are just scared and have no one to turn to. I see it more as selfish because you leave everyone else behind suffering.
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I think there's always going to be bullying. Kids/teens can be demons that's just how they are. It's usually something that has to do with their upbringing that turns them into bullies. And sometimes bullying doesn't actually get reported so that's another problem

Honestly sometimes jar jar is right though. You eventually have to stand up for yourself

I knew a kid in high school who was kind of a jerk not to me but he was a prick in general sometimes for sure

I literally had to walk up to him when he was messing with people one day and stick my finger in his face and assertively tell him to stop. He stopped right away looking like he shit himself. And guess what? We're friends now lmao. I think it was the fact that he didn't expect anybody to stand up to him. Also I had one of my friends with me and he was by himself just with two girls who weren't going to do anything
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Aug 25 2016, 01:25 AM
So you're blaming the victim?

Come on, be serious.
If you allow it to happen to yourself, who else is there to blame?
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Aug 25 2016, 01:57 AM
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So you're blaming the victim?

Come on, be serious.
If you allow it to happen to yourself, who else is there to blame?
By that logic, we should blame all victims for ever being victims who decide to take their lives. Instead of being wise and HELPING THEM.

You treat the cause, not blame the symptom. If the person stopped having the bully in their lives, the suicide wouldn't seem like an option to them.
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What will you do when you get old?

So who's going to remove the bully from the equation? The bully isn't going to stop, generally authority figures don't care unless they're related to you in some way. The only person who can stop it is yourself. If your friends try to stop the bully, they're just going to wait until your friends aren't around.
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I don't think it's a lack of effort on anyone's part for this still being relevant. It's more of one those things that would require everyone to want to change. Take racism for example, it's a pointless ideal that only leads to conflict yet, people continue to believe in it. The civil rights movement fought for racism to be ended and even today it's still present.

Those are two different topics but, the point remains the same. There will always be a bad apple in the group who wants to make others feel miserable. It could be because they themselves are miserable or they just enjoy hurting others. Either which way, the only way to solve it is to stand up for yourself. Bullies only bother the ones who don't fight back. Whether it be verbally or physically, there must be some action taken in order for it to ever change.
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Aug 25 2016, 02:14 AM
So who's going to remove the bully from the equation? The bully isn't going to stop, generally authority figures don't care unless they're related to you in some way. The only person who can stop it is yourself. If your friends try to stop the bully, they're just going to wait until your friends aren't around.
You are not the only person who can stop it. But what must be done is MAKE the authority figures give a damn. Bullying will happen regardless, I won't deny that. But we have to make an effort to mitigate the damage. The best way to do that is get rid of the apathy.

Will it happen overnight? Absolutely not. But when it does happen, the nunber of bully-based suicides WILL drop like a rock in a lake.
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What will you do when you get old?

How are you going to make authority figures care?

Also I'm pretty sure, at least in the U.S that there are some states with laws on the books where if someone does commit suicide as a result of your bullying, you can be charged with negligent manslaughter or a similar charge. I have no clue about other countries laws on that, though.

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I'd prefer that law not be needed. If you have to charge the bully with negligent homicide of the bullying victim, you acted too late.

And honestly? I have no clue how to solve this issue. But I at least admit it can be solved. You seem of a mind that it can't be and to simply work with what is used now.
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Oh, I think it can be solved. It just can't be solved for you. You have to stop the person bullying you.
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At the same time, it doesn't get solved by you nearly as often as you think it does. Many victims have tried what you did and end up getting bullied or hurt a helluva lot more.
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